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Queenless hive?

  • 28 Jul 2021 6:03 PM
    Reply # 10781044 on 10730982
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Did you find any fresh brood? (evidence of a laying queen?) You don't have to see her if you see eggs. Magnafying glass and a good flashlight or direct sun.

    I would not "import" a queen, from everything I have read and heard you want a queen from local stock and is adapted to best survive with our fauna and our climate. 99.9% of the time the bees know better than you, and a queen from a good survivor line of local stocks will have the benefit their own genetic adaptation to this locale. Throwing in an import from another climate would likely be without that local genetic adaptation and may take a few generations to get that back.

    Last modified: 28 Jul 2021 6:06 PM | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 9 Jul 2021 11:01 AM
    Reply # 10740578 on 10730982
    Deleted user

    Thanks for the replies!   I pinged Steve.

  • 9 Jul 2021 9:36 AM
    Reply # 10740381 on 10730982
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    TVBA member Steve Gomes raises and sells local survivor stock queens from about May to August. You can reach him at tauermunki@gmail.com 

    An alternate nearby breeder is Starr Farms.

  • 9 Jul 2021 6:26 AM
    Reply # 10739908 on 10730982
    Anonymous

    If I remember correctly, TVBA member Steve Gomes rears queens the year around. Local bees are always acclimated to our changing climate. Good luck.

  • 8 Jul 2021 12:10 AM
    Reply # 10736835 on 10730982
    Deleted user

    I guess I'll try ordering a queen.  I looked on Mann Lake but they are out of stock on shipped Italians and Carniolans.

    Is there another breed that would do well in our climate?  Any other suggestions for where to buy a queen?

    Thanks.

  • 6 Jul 2021 12:48 AM
    Message # 10730982
    Deleted user

    So, I did my first post-heat-wave inspection of my one hive (from a TVBA nuc this spring).

    The heat wave we had caused a the comb on a few of my foundationless frames to collapse.  I wonder whether, during this structural damage event, the queen was killed.  I'm not very good at spotting the queen.  I saw her (I think) for the first and only time in early June.  I didn't see her this inspection.

    I went through my two 8 frame deep boxes and there was not very much capped brood at all and the pattern was very spotty.  There might have been a few larva.  I can never see eggs (just too small) and I didn't see any this time either.  But I normally see a lot of larva and capped brood and there just wasn't much this time.

    There were a hefty number of dead bees and pupa on the ground in front of the hive from those really hot days.  I'm not sure if that's related to the heat or the comb collapse or both.

    There was a lot of what I think is uncapped nectar (liquid but it didn't fall out like water).  I've read that this can be a sign of a queenless hive.  I've also heard that queenless hives are more "flighty" and have a higher pitched normal hum.  I saw a number of bees take flight from the frames as I was inspecting them.  Enough flying away from the frame that I noted it.  And the hum of the hive seemed more strained than usual.

    I was doing a lot of reconstruction work because of the collapsed comb, so I was being pretty "invasive".  Maybe that's why they were "louder" than normal?

    Any other tricks for determining my hive is queenless?  Are these signs enough to be pretty confident there's no queen?

    What should my next step be?  Should I just order a queen and see if she's accepted?  I guess worst case scenario is I'm out $40-ish.

    This was a really strong hive before the heat wave.

    Thanks in advance.

    Last modified: 6 Jul 2021 11:02 PM | Deleted user
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