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Apivar--What went wrong

  • 27 Aug 2020 3:08 PM
    Message # 9194871

    After removing the honey supers, I decided for the first time to use Apivar.  For two of the three hives i used it on, the mite population dropped, below the 1% level.  But for one hive something went terribly wrong.  My alcohol sample before treatment showed 7 mites.  After treatment, my alcohol sample showed 43 mites.  I believe I properly placed the strips in the hive box.  I bracketed the cluster.  I put strips in the upper and lower boxes.  I checked the expiration date of the product; it was well within the use-by date. I live in an area without a lot of other hives around.  I would appreciate any thoughts by members who have used Apivar before.

    Last modified: 27 Aug 2020 9:19 PM | Anonymous member
    Moved from Mites: 30 Mar 2021 10:21 AM
  • 28 Aug 2020 9:16 AM
    Reply # 9196323 on 9194871
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Hi Ted.  This is a rather shocking number.  I think one of the major differences between Apivar and other treatments is that Apivar is slow acting – it may be effective, but it’s slow acting.  That’s one reason they recommend leaving Apivar strips in the hive for at least 6 weeks.

    I had a similar situation last summer before I took off to Europe.  Since I wouldn’t be around for 4 weeks, I used Apivar because other treatments require shorter periodic intervention.   So, for my hives, I started at about a 2% level before treatment but when I got back, they averaged about 6% (17 mites per 300).  Highest was 20.  Treatment had been going for about 4 1/2 to 5 weeks.

    What I did was enlist the nuclear option:   I did oxalic vapor treatments every 5 days for 4 weeks.  Harsh, I know.  I thought this might negatively impact my queens, but all 8 survived and the colonies looked strong going into winter. ( I did have one winter loss, but that’s because the cluster was too small, I believe).

    If I were in your shoes, I hit the problematic colony with at least one treatment of oxalic (maybe more) or Formic-Pro to knock the population down.  Maybe the Apivar is working, but it’s working slowly.  I think it’s best to get the population knocked down soon and not wait for Apivar.  But I’d consider continuing Apivar after the population looked in check (but I have not researched this aspect).

    This is probably what I’d do.

  • 3 Sep 2020 9:34 AM
    Reply # 9209929 on 9194871
    Anonymous

    Re Oxalic treatments. I've read (as of today) one article on Oxalic treatment and found at link below. It suggests Oxalic sublimation is harmless to bees but you suggest it is rough on them...? Can you talk further on the topic and how it is done and why it could be tough on the bees?

    http://www.sussex.ac.uk/broadcast/read/33537?fbclid=IwAR1P58Gbafhw4dzsrAfrLlDzFz0hIv_-FiixNiOlUb5nMIKJFOzgglt6kAo


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